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December 28, 2025
🎧 What Jhana Meditation Feels Like—From the Inside Out
Jhourney cofounder Stephen Zerfas on what Jhana feels like, where it can go wrong, and how AI could make the practice easier to learn

TL;DR
- Stephen Zerfas, cofounder of Jhourney, discussed Jhana meditation on the podcast 'AI & I'.
- Jhana is described as an altered state of consciousness involving 'gentle ease and slipping into gratitude' and 'relief of coming home'.
- Jhourney aims to make Jhana meditation more accessible through retreats and by shortening the practice timeline.
- The company provides feedback on meditation practice to help participants experiment and progress.
- Zerfas reframes meditation as 'resting into what already exists' rather than achieving a new state.
- The concept of 'memory reconsolidation' is discussed as a way to 'hack your personality' by resetting emotional defaults.
- Potential pitfalls of Jhana practice include entering the 'window of tolerance' and using meditation to bypass real problems.
- Jhourney is developing AI tools to support facilitators and aims for an AI-guided curriculum to help individuals achieve Jhanas with less practice time.
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